Good blog

Posted by: Mira
September 1, 2005, 10:14 pm

Good blog with interesing information!

Posted by: Sofia
September 2, 2005, 12:57 pm

Stormpay denied my appeal to get my money back from a company that failed to give the service that I paid for thru Stormpay.

Posted by: Dana Kali
October 3, 2005, 3:46 am

Good evening Friends, John Miller here. I have found your message board from a dogpile.com search on stormpay complaints and feel the need to add to it my own D.D.
I see a lot of information here, some accurate and some not so accurate, but the one thing everyone seems to agree on is that stormpay has done something wrong. In my own case the amount is more than any amount I see posted on this board and they refuse to let me w/d to my bank or even pay members with it.
My business is a legit investment group as well as web hosting and advertisment services which they have known since day one of launch, never had a claim ruled against me and only 2 chargbacks ever against my account.
Below is the B.B.B. information copied directly from the bbb.org website.
BBB Reliability Report

The Better Business Bureau
Serving Middle Tennessee
P.O. Box 198436
Nashville, TN 37219-8436



StormPay, Inc
1690 Gulf Club Lane
Clarksville, TN 37043
Telephone: (931) 647-8750
Fax: (931) 647-8970



The BBB reports on members and non-members. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report
BBB Definition:

report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.


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Principal: Mr. Steve Girsky , CEO File Open Date: September 2002
Incorporated: July 2003, TN
TOB Classification: Internet Shopping Services
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.


Additional DBA Names

TymGlobal.com
Stormpay.com, Inc.
Tymglobal
AllResell.com


Principal Officer

Mr. Steve Girsky is the CEO of the company.


Customer Service Contact

Mr. Steve Girsky is the complaint contact person for this company and should be contacted at (931) 647-8750 before filing a complaint with the BBB.


Nature Of Business

The company offers online vendors to accept payments from potential customers all over the globe.

Consumers should be aware that the address used by this company of 1960-J Madison Street is that of a private postal service and not the physical location for the company.


Customer Experience

Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record
BBB Definition:

unsatisfactory record - A company has an "unsatisfactory business performance record" with the Bureau is based on the experiences reflected in BBB files. This file condition results when the company has failed to resolve or respond to complaints, repeatedly failed to respond or resolve issues in a timely manner, failed to resolve the underlying issues for a pattern
BBB Definition:

pattern - More than 2 complaints involving the same allegations usually within 12 months that are significant in relation to the company's size and volume of business.


of complaints, failed to honor their commitment to mediate or arbitrate disputes or honor mediated agreements or arbitrated decisions, failed to substantiate, modify or discontinue false advertising claims that are challenged by the BBB, or failed to discontinue unauthorized use of the BBB name and logo, a Federally protected trademark.


with the Bureau due to two or more unresolved
BBB Definition:

unresolved - The company failed to resolve the complaint issues.


complaints.

When considering complaint information, please take into account the company's size and volume of transactions, and understand that the nature of complaints and a firm's responses to them are often more important than the number of complaints.

The Bureau processed a total of 60 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 60 complaints closed in 36 months, 51 were closed in the last year.

These complaints concerned:

4 Advertising Issues
BBB Definition:

Advertising Issues - Claims alleging print or electronic media advertised claims or practices misrepresent the service or product offer.



4 Sales Practice Issues
BBB Definition:

Sales Practice Issues - Claims of alleged sales presentations made in person or by telephone that contain misrepresentations of the product or service, high pressure sales practices, failure to disclose key conditions of the offer, and verbal representations not consistent with written contractual terms or agreements.



3 Delivery Issues
BBB Definition:

Delivery Issues - Claims alleging delayed delivery of ordered merchandise.



11 Refund or Exchange Issues
BBB Definition:

Refund or Exchange Issues - Claim of alleged failure to honor company policy or verbal commitment to provide refunds, exchanges, or credit for products or services.



2 Contract Issues
BBB Definition:

Contract Issues - Claim of alleged failure to honor contract or agreement, work performed without authorization, or invalid contract.



7 Customer Service Issues
BBB Definition:

Service Issues - Claims of alleged delay in completing service, failure to provide promised service, inferior quality of provided service, or damaged merchandise as a result of delivery service.



BBB Definition:

Customer Service Issues - Claims alleging unsatisfactory customer service, including personnel's failure to provide assistance in a timely manner, failure to address or respond to customer dissatisfaction, unavailability for customer support, and/or inappropriate behavior or attitude exhibited by company staff.



20 Billing or Collection Issues
BBB Definition:

Billing or Collection Issues - Claim alleging billing errors, unauthorized charges, or questionable collection practices.



4 Service or Repair Issues
BBB Definition:

Repair Issues - Claims of alleged incorrect diagnosis of a problem, delay in completion of repair, inferior workmanship.



BBB Definition:

Service or Repair Issues - Claims of alleged delay in completing service, failure to provide promised service, inferior quality of provided service, damage merchandise as a result of delivery service. alleged incorrect diagnosis of a problem, delay in completion of repair, inferior workmanship.





They were closed as:

43 Resolved
BBB Definition:

Resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.

(click on Resolved to see more details)



8 Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer acknowledged acceptance to the BBB.
35 Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer failed to acknowledge acceptance to the BBB.

10 Unresolved
BBB Definition:

Unresolved - The company failed to resolve the complaint issues.

(click on Unresolved to see more details)



10 Company failed to resolve the complaint issues through the BBB voluntary and self-regulatory process.

7 Administratively Closed
BBB Definition:

Administratively Closed - The BBB determined the company made a good faith and reasonable effort to resolve the issues, although the complainant was not always satisfied with the outcome.

(click on Administratively Closed to see more details)



7 BBB determined the company made good faith and reasonable offer to resolve the issues, but the consumer did not accept the offer.




Additional DBAs, Addresses and Telephone Numbers

Additional Web Addresses
www.stormpay.com
www.allresell.com





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Report as of October 25, 2005
Copyright© 2005 Better Business Bureau®, Inc.


BBB reports may not be reproduced for sales or promotional purposes.

The information in this report has either been provided by the company or has been compiled by the Bureau from other reliable sources.

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained in this report is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

Long post I understand, but I like giving all the info one may need to get things taken care of. I have filed my own complaints with the FTC and the TN SEC as well as having a lawyer on the case from Cushing Oklahoma where I do business.
The information I received from the FTC on the phone this morning was that they will track all complaints and take action according to the record of complaints they receive.
The funds stormpay is holding belong not to me, but to our investors, which means we MUST have access to that money to invest for returns which go back to our members.
I invite any who have had problems with stormpay or other payment processors or programs to join us in our quest for the TRUTH. We have a service called Due Diligence World located at http://www.duediligenceworld.com and for the moment membership is free so join us now and post your VALID information in the proper forum within our service.
We will then present the information needed to file your complaint with the proper agencies.
Thank you all and God bless,,
John Miller.

Posted by: John Miller
October 25, 2005, 5:55 pm

Hi,

Im from Arabian Gulf, i hope that i read this page before i joind stormpay, im using it to sale products, i have a 4 chargebacks on one month cost me over 120 $, i think i will pay over 10 000 $ on this year if i stay on this company.

they never unswer a clear unswers, you ask something and they unswer you another things.

i just pay money to be netIBA and pay for the debit card for nothing, i lost 200 $ for nothing.

while im checking about stormpay i saw that there is a sallers sent the items and after that there are refunded transiction on there accounts.


anyway sorry for the wrong spelling, i hope to do not join this company if you are thinking to join it.

i lost 200 $ for noooooothing !!!! where is the protection ?! they are liers. i remember one day i fight with them for the chargebacks and after that they cancel one chargeback and return the money to me and when i asked regarding the anther chargback transictions they ignore, i think they are jokers !! someone should stop them !!!

before i have a big dream with stormpay but now every thing is cleared , they are JOKERS




Posted by: User
November 8, 2005, 3:12 am

Same experience as I've read before...Over the years of uding SP I had a couple of chargebacks and upon inquiring was either a) ignored, or b) lied to and told purchase was made with a stolen credit card. Contacted buyer directly and they advised their stormpay account had been locked for cone cockamamie crap. He called his CC company and the charge HAD actually been processed...SP was trying to charge this customer, and reverse and charge me the reversal fee, as well as taking the $$ out of my SP account.

Bastard thieves. At this point, they have stolen hundreds of thousands from users by freezing accounts of the autosurf admins. No warning, no outside (read: government order) force, they just decided to do it.

SP: To be avoided at all costs.



Posted by: Kevin
February 4, 2006, 3:31 pm

I funded my stormpay account with a bank draft directly from my bank in Vancouver, Canada. Over a week ago I requested a withdrawal from my account--the transaction says Pending (supposed to be sent by DHL)but so far Nothing. E-mailed questions are now ignored as previously an answer would take about two days. This is the biggest fraud and I was stupid enough to send them my money. Although I believe strongly in the internet, its ...holes like Stormpay who create all of the suspicion, distrust, and negativity. Offline business can be just as dangerous and I'm new to the Net, but I won't be quitting. Don't give up, just do more research (I didn't check out stormpay on the net--stupid mistake). Google any business and keep on checking out the forums because if a company has any dirt, its liable to turn up sooner or later. As soon as I read--Not Paying or Not Responding to customer e-mails--thats the big warning. I'll send in a complaint to Tennessee authorities about Stormpay but I believe that I've lost my funds, approximately two thousand bucks and I'm just an account holder--not an auto-surf merchant or MLMster--so ther can be no excuse for witholding my funds. Stormpay thinks its being smart but those two owners are going to be in for some surprises one day in their lives. What goes around, eventually comes around. So, scamsters like them will eventually meet their Waterloo, but the rest of us--if we stay on the straight and narrow--we'll make it and prosper. I only regard this as a temporary setback.

Posted by: richard kwong
February 8, 2006, 3:02 pm

have just managed to log into my stormpay a/c just now.... as I suspected, all my money is gone. It issues chargeback to 12dp, 24dailpro and vivasurf.

Have not closed the a/c yet but have deleted all my credit card info...



Posted by: yiting
February 8, 2006, 11:33 pm

Stop StormPay Just Like Paypal Got Stopped

Ok here you go all the info all should need to stop StormPay, The law firm Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP specializes in consumer class action lawsuits and securities litigation. They have successfully litigated cases concerning credit card fraud, telecommunications violations, and they were successful in getting an out of court settlement from Payapl for millions and Paypal was doing the same thing freezing funds for no good reason, so this firm is the one to deal with all involved with Stormpay or 12 Daily Pro problems should contact them, there website address is http://www.girardgibbs.com/ you can also see more info on the Payapl suit at the fillowing links http://www.aboutpaypal.org/san_francisco_class_action_suit
http://www.creditwrench.com/PayPalClassAction.html
http://www.settlement4onlinepayments.com/index.php3
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5550334/
http://paypalsucks.com/links.shtml
So all that see this should contact Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP at there website or call them at 415-981-4800

T.M.


Posted by: T.M.
February 10, 2006, 12:32 am

Well, They froze my account over 6 months ago now, and said i have to wait 180 days, Now 180 days is gone, they will not answer my e-mail's, I have over 20k in my account, and i will fight them all the way, I earned this money from hard work from making and installing scripts for people.

This is not right, They will not get away with it, If i'm going to lose my money and the rest of you all, I sure am going to put up a good fight to make them join us all.

What goes around, comes around.

Regards

Ernest

thekingshere@aol.com



Posted by: Ernest
February 10, 2006, 11:14 am

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